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Re: Red Wolf Scandal
« Reply #343 on: September 17, 2016, 12:14:10 PM »
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Re: Red Wolf Scandal
« Reply #342 on: September 16, 2016, 02:08:21 PM »
So who is charged with implementing such "High Gross" / "NO Net" Fundraising Schemes at Defenders of Wildlife??




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Re: Red Wolf Scandal
« Reply #341 on: September 16, 2016, 01:49:19 PM »
In preparation for next weeks Congressional Oversight Hearing on Wolves, let's take a look back to Wolves, Congress and Defenders of Wildlife...  Circa - 2002...









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Re: Red Wolf Scandal
« Reply #340 on: September 15, 2016, 10:58:59 PM »

6/23/16 - Oversight Committee gives a glimpse inside FWS "Duty-Station's"...

Click Link / Video below -

https://youtu.be/gq_-EIVaLDc?t=42m1s


Charlotte "Alternate Duty Station" is a "Pain", while Recovery Program is in "Peril"


Rabon, David <david_rabon@fws.gov> Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:17 PM
To: "Benjamin, Pete" <pete_benjamin@fws.gov>

Hi Pete:

I can do the 17th because this is important, but can we keep it local. I actually missed that date being a holiday
and I have something scheduled personally?

It would be a real pain to go east three weeks in a row.

Thanks,

David

David R. Rabon, Jr., PhD
Coordinator, Red Wolf Recovery Program
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
Post Office Box 1969
Manteo, North Carolina 27954


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Re: Red Wolf Scandal
« Reply #339 on: September 15, 2016, 09:56:34 PM »

For those following this for any length of time will appreciate the following.  Just as the plaintiffs attempted by suing the NC Wildlife Resources Commission in a misguided effort to erode the rights and privileges afforded to private citizens and landowners alike, by negotiating each away without the principle even present.

Until the Equal Access to Justice Act is fully rewritten to prohibit Big NOT For Profit companies like the Defenders of Wildlife, Animal Welfare Institute and the Red Wolf Coalition from extorting a provision of law, intended to allow the little guy a louder voice the erosion of rights and privileges will continue!


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Re: Red Wolf Scandal
« Reply #338 on: September 15, 2016, 08:53:25 PM »
Citizens Science kept hearing the same questioned being bantered... What is the "intent of congress relative to the ESA & Hybrids?"

Well...  Guess, were about to find out...





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Re: Red Wolf Scandal
« Reply #337 on: September 15, 2016, 05:54:21 PM »
Do Coyotes "Cross Bridges" (Bodie Island).

If so why would USFWS "Experiment" by dumping out 199 Sterilized Coyotes, 50 Hybrids and 3 Red Wolves FWS "Mistakenly" Sterilized within 10 miles of nesting Endangered Turtle & Plover Habitat?

Dr. Joey Hinton on "Bridges" and "Coyotes"...

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Re: Red Wolf Scandal
« Reply #336 on: September 14, 2016, 09:36:12 PM »

Worlds leading Wolf Experts on the "Hybrid" Red Wolf...


David Mech,  USGS, Wolf Expert and Senior Research Scientist for U.S. Department of Interior (since 1970), Notable Quotes -

"Into this heated conflict stepped David Mech, one of the worlds leading wolf experts."  "In 1989, at a meeting of experts on wolf biology, Mech challenged his fellow researchers to tell him how they could justify spending so much money rescuing the red wolf when it might not even be a species." Pg 397 Asking about Life (Book)


USFWS, Zoologist Ronald Nowalk (retired) and Red Wolf Scientist, Notable Quotes -

"A recovery program, led by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service pursuant to the U.S. Endangered Species Act, has involved location and breeding of animals as close as possible to the original red wolf." Nowalk et al 1995; Morse 1996

"The wolves of North America are under a severe new threat from an influential group; not the lumber companies, fur trappers, or stockmen, but the soloist, or at least some among them who are keen to public claims that the wolf populations have hybridized with other species." "These scientist are unwittingly playing into the hands of certain commercial interest, which will seize upon any suggestion that a species is no longer taxonomically valid in order to argue that conservation efforts are not warranted and that the species and its habitat may be exploited." Hybridization: the Double-edged Threat by Ron Nowak

"Based on an analyst of mitochondrial DNA, Wayne and Jenks (1991) went well beyond the long-reconized view that the red wolf and coyote had interbred." "They suggested that C. rufus actually originated as a hybrid and had never been a valid species or subspecies." (Emphis added) Hybridization: the Double-edged Threat by Ron Nowak

"Their study was simultaneously utilized by Gittlemnan and Pimm (1991) to criticize efforts being made to reintroduce the red wolf in the wild." Hybridization: the Double-edged Threat by Ron Nowak

"Nowak discussed the issue of reticulate patters as being natural." "It may be difficult to save something, the red wolf that might not be considered natural." 1999 PHVA Minutes

"He described the movement of coyotes across the country and argued that we no longer had true red wolves or true coyotes --- they are part coyote/wolves and red wolf/coyote." 1999 PHVA Minutes

"Regardless, he thought we should save the current population in a wildlife area as a national monument." 1999 PHVA Minutes


UCLA Geneticist Dr. Robert Wayne, Notable Quotes -

"We disagree strongly with the statement by Nowak and Federoff that 'If the red wolf did not exist, we would have to invent it'." Wayne response paper to Nowak / Federoff "Origin of the Red Wolf"

"The issue of whether the red wolf was ancestral to either coyote or gray wolf is a red herring; it is simply not relevant." Wayne response paper to Nowak / Federoff "Origin of the Red Wolf"

"Some discussion took place concerning the likelihood or reaching a resolution concerning the evolutionary origins of red wolves." "Bob (Robert) Wayne argued for avoiding discussion of the question of red wolf origins out of deference for restoring red wolves, because elucidation of origins is intractable." (Great Emphasis added) 1999 PHVA Minutes

E.lu.ci.da.tion, Explanation that makes something clear; clarification.

In.trac.table, Hard to control or deal with.

"Wayne's genetic (hybrid) data proved to be an embarrassment to the USFWS, which had poured millions of dollars into the reintroduction program in the belief that the red wolf was a unique and endangered species."  Pg 399 Asking about Life (Book)

"To protect the red wolf, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service began pressuring Wayne to avoid the word "Hybrid" in his research papers and to substitute the term "Intergrade Species" and other similar phrases."  Pg 399 Asking about Life (Book)

"By 1994, it was clear however, that the red wolf was NOT a species engaging in "limited genetic exchange" with other species." Pg 399 Asking about Life (Book)


UGA Professor Dr. Michael Chamberlin, Notable Quotes -

Wayne and Jenks (1991) evaluated the genetic integrity of the source population from which the founders of the red wolf captive-breeding program were selected." S. M. Chambers et. al

"These animals were characterized morphologically as coyotes (58%), C. rufus-coyote hybrids (31%), and C rufus (11%)." S. M. Chambers et. al

"Genetic characterization of these same animals with whole mtDNA genome restriction analysis found that they exhibited either coyote (84%) or gray wolf (16%) mtDNA and that the morphological and genetic classifications often did not correspond." S. M. Chambers et. Al
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Re: Red Wolf Scandal
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Re: Red Wolf Scandal
« Reply #334 on: September 14, 2016, 08:11:11 PM »
Citizens Science on Hybrid Red Wolves...

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